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Why I Like Joe Q
2008-06-14 19:39:51


All right, I need to leave out some of the specifics so as to protect the participants, but here's a perfect example of why I and so many other people like Joe Quesada, the most hated man in comics.

A number of months ago, a particular editor assigned a particular artist to draw a certain title. This choice was controversial in certain circles, and there was a whole lot of hand-wringing and second-guessing as to whether the artist in question was the best selection for the gig. Joe himself made no bones about the fact that he was concerned about the choice.

So right here, thing one: he let the editor's assignment stand--he didn't ask for the assignment to be revoked, even though the artist in question hadn't begun drawing yet, and it would have been a simple enough thing to do, and well within his rights as editor in chief. Instead, he chose to trust his editor's judgment.

As the first issue was being drawn, the editor tried to make Joe feel more comfortable by forwarding him pages from the issue as they got done. But Joe just wasn't feeling it.

Eventually, the book in question came out, and the response overall to the artist's work was overall positive. So that's a win. But on top of that, once the book hit the stands, Joe Q sent the editor in question the following e-mail (slightly edited here so as to eliminate any tells):


Just got done reading this issue and seeing it all put together, lettering,
coloring etc., I think you made a smart call with _______________. As I said, I'm a
big fan of his work but I didn't think he would be suitable for _____________________________.

I was wrong, you were right. Great call, good job.

That said, what's been the fan reaction as of right now. We could both be wrong ;-)


Right there, that's one of the reasons why I like Joe Q. Even if he'd had a change of heart when he saw the final product, he didn't have to say so--and beyond that, he didn't have to put it in writing. Any number of other guys wouldn't have addressed the issue at all, for fear of looking weak or foolish or whatever. Joe, though, is man enough to say that he was wrong, and praise the original call.

That's classy.

(And just to be clear about this, I wasn't the editor.)

Of course, none of these good feelings are enough to prevent me from posting the photo at the left...

More later.

Tom B
Wow...
That is some deep stuff there...

Any chance you will be returning to questionaires in the future?

Posted by Aziroth on 2008-06-14 19:45:03
I guess any EIC makes controversy
Some decisions will always be unpopular (cough cough) and the you-know-what has to roll somewhere.

I've admired Mr. Q's editorship for a while for the simple fact that he seems to let creative people do creative jobs without getting in the way too much, and let people work with people they work well with.

It's hard to know what happens behind the scenes but overall I think he's been a good influence on Marvel. At least the past few years haven't been boring, that's for sure. Marvel is pretty creatively diverse right now, and that's fantastic.

Posted by aurata on 2008-06-14 21:30:58
Joe Q's a great guy, and he's made Marvel a fun place to buy books from.

Posted by wishlish on 2008-06-14 23:58:46
This may be a bit offtopic but...
Quesada mentioned on a previous blog that he wanted to see Comics propelled to a point it becomes accepted by the public. My question: is Quesada aware of a campaign thread in the suggestions boards arguing FOR the inclusion of a comic book course in school? As I have no way of actually PMing you the link to the previously mentioned thread, I have posted the link to said thread below.

http://www.marvel.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=108036&start=0

Posted by Aziroth on 2008-06-15 10:55:40
So Joe Q is a big enough man to admit when he is wrong. Sounds good to me.

Heck, other than OMD I liked some of the changes he made. Cap's death was stirring and emotional (though I firmly believe we need, now more than ever, a positive American role model that only the Cap can provide). Parker's unmasking is one of the gutsiest moves in comics (and it was done in character). It's a shame that one unpopular decision can change all that, make the fans forget the good he has done.

Me, I'm still sore about OMD. That's not going to change.

But I'll try to not let that colour my opinions about Joe Q beyond that. Hopefully others will try the same.

Posted by DRock1 on 2008-06-15 13:34:50
I haven't agreed with all of his editorial decisions. But stories like these show that this man knows what he's doing, controversies or not.

Posted by Michael Heide on 2008-06-15 14:23:00
i'm a rambler!
Personally I like Joe Q (as much as one can like someone you have never met) and have no problem accepting the fact that not every decision he makes as EIC is going to sit well with me. Generally speaking I don't believe Marvel has ever been in better shape.

I'm not a fan of BND (someone hire Jeff Parker to write it btw) but at least you have all been completely up front about the rational behind the necessity of it, and while I can't fault your logic, I would still dispute your conclusions. Anyways, I'm not overly worried; as, as that critically acclaimed guy with the pale face and dark clothes once said, while writing for your Distinguished Competition, "The great stories have a way of returning to their original forms." (Guess you could use that on either side of the argument.)

No, really what I want to say, apart from a big thank you to both your good self and Joe Q, is to be careful about having yearly "BIG EVENTS," and so many variant covers. It struck me recently that the last time I can remember this happening was the early 90s. The big difference this time is that the quality of writing is generally much stronger. That said, the occasional summer without a Civil War, a World War, or indeed a Crisis would be much easier on my poor pocket.

So, anyways, "Thank you," to you and Joe. If it ever seems that the whole internet is ganging up on you, while I can't guarantee I'll agree with any individual decision either of you will make, i can guarantee you both have a big fan here, who knows you both have Marvels best interests at heart.

Posted by cjmcaree on 2008-06-15 15:42:12
I discovered mr Q with his work on X-Factor. I'm not ashamed to say there's some kind of fantasy in his art I tend to miss these days, something I only found in the work of Simon Bisley by example,something like lucidity about comic-book itself.The latest cover for Invincible IronMan 1 proves it still, with the multiple reflections upon the armor; mr Q has something like that for every character he's working at.A way to say to the readers to not being dupe about what they are reading.
When I learned about him becoming an editorial I was sure it will be a good thing for Marvel because he was a practician, wich would necessarily include a different point of view.
Still haven't read OMD yet, waiting for the trade, but I will repeat what I said : using Mephisto at his full potential as character is a brilliant move, like I'd like to see much in Marvel especially for SpiderMan.


Posted by notapotatoe on 2008-06-16 05:44:18
He was still wrong about NOT putting Steve Dillon on Deadpool though...!

Posted by underworldeve on 2008-06-16 16:14:27
I love Joe!
I wish he'd make the public olive branch to John Byrne, as I believe Byrne has much to offer the Joe Quesada system and Marvel. I don't blame him for the Byrne thing or anything, I just think the whole thing is dumb, so who cares about the whys and who is to blame, just make good comics.

Other than the "good old boys" club stuff going overboard at times, he's the man. He's got lots of people who like working for him, and he's finally starting to let classic comic writers like Roy Thomas, Roger Stern, David Michelinie, and Bob Layton do work for Marvel again. Hopefully they'll get more modern artists to work with in the future.

It's good that Joe is like, that, and that you, Tom, respect a person that can man up and admit to being wrong. Too many people are too stubborn to try things another person's way. That confidence that Joe showed in the editor, against his judgements, will go a long way with everybody involved.

Posted by Dusty. on 2008-06-17 21:57:00
I would love to see Byrne at Marvel again, but I think that ship has sailed years ago. He seems to be happy at IDW, anyway.

Posted by Michael Heide on 2008-06-18 06:16:44
I've grown to respect Joe Q a little more recently. Its just felt that over the years, he has put his interests in bringing in new talent (read:Hollywood) over quality creators that alot of fans like. There is a place for both and it seems like Marvel is a little friendlier to those older talents these days.

Posted by Smakk9 on 2008-06-19 08:44:28
Why would we want John Byrne back in the first place?

No one has tried to guess who the artsit and what the book was? I couldn't come up with any guesses for the life of me.

Posted by IanZL on 2008-06-19 17:30:21
He loves you...

Posted by Redy1 on 2008-06-20 15:33:52
Hey IanZL,

Best guess says David Aja on Iron Fist. Potentially, an insignificant enough book to take a chance on, and not the kind of artist you could imagine drawing old school Iron Fist. And, boy, did he, Fraction and Ed Brubaker really hit the ball out of the park. Can't believe a new team is coming on board. If any of the creators ever reads these blog comments, thanks for the surprise hit of the last two years.

Posted by cjmcaree on 2008-06-20 18:50:23
To be honest!!
Q has done some great artwork, although I think his writing is good to. Come to think about it he makes for a great editor at the same time, ????? wait a minute oh right I forgot he does all those things at Marvel and he does it so well....Grrrrrrr. (snit)

Posted by terciera on 2008-07-01 07:09:51
Artist guess
I would guess it was Khoi Pham onto Mighty Avengers. I didn't like his Herc work, but MA was alright.

And NO to John Byrne! His redoing of Spider-Man was horrible. And Brian MB's was infinitely better! Keep that guy away from Marvel from now on!

Posted by pineappleprotein on 2008-07-03 02:19:10
RSS feed seems to be broken
Has anyone else got the RSS feed to work since the blog format changed?

Posted by GS ManThing on 2008-07-07 05:11:02
Q
I'm completely and totally fed up with Emma Frost.

Other than her lifesucking overexposure I'm quite fine with Joe Quesada.

Posted by domino21710 on 2008-07-22 22:05:42
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